Agenda and minutes

Older People's Partnership - Wednesday, 14 March 2012 10.00 am

Venue: Boardroom, BFVA, Amber House, Market Street, Bracknell

Contact: Amanda Roden  01344 352253

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Minutes and Action Points from 14 December 2011 pdf icon PDF 65 KB


The minutes of meeting held 14 December 2011 were agreed as a correct record.


Matters Arising


  • The new phone numbers for health and the police was still confusing people and had not been widely advertised. There was a pilot in the north of England.
  • The issue in relation to the Nepali elderly in Sandhurst had been raised and a grant for minority ethnic Asian elderly had been given by Adult Social Care at Bracknell Forest Council for Sandhurst Day Centre. There would be training for staff regarding, for example, dietary needs to meet health and safety rules. Integration for the Nepalese regarding, for example, language would be long term.
  • The Single Equality Scheme was going to the meeting of the Executive on 20 March. The objectives had been reduced to 12 or 13.
  • The Sub Group for the Older People’s Partnership Strategy refresh would next meet in May.
  • Blue badges for disabled people were being replaced with new badges when old badges needed to be renewed. The new information booklet issued with blue badges included places where blue badges could be used, for example, not on private land. In London Boroughs parking was particularly difficult in some areas. The new guidance regarding the issuing of blue badges was clear on the requirements people would need to meet. Further information would be sought regarding parking for volunteer drivers, for example, for hospital transport.

(Action: Naoma Dobson)

A friend could transport a blue badge holder if they were in the car and the badge was clearly displayed. The cost of a blue badge was now £10 for 3 years.

  • The ‘money talks’ programme ended on Thursday. Funding was being sought by the Citizens Advice Bureau (CAB), but had not been secured in this instance.


'Be Smart Be Safe' - Older People's Handbook pdf icon PDF 127 KB

Additional documents:


The Partnership discussed the ‘Be Smart, Be Safe’ handbook from Essex County Council with a view to producing a similar handbook for Bracknell Forest.


It was queried whether there were any copyright issues with using the same format. It was reported that the handbook was produced for Essex County Council by a charity. It was suggested that the Partnership seek support from local businesses or private companies such as Saga to help towards to costs of producing the handbook with a mix of text and pictures.


Private sheltered housing schemes would possibly be involved and the handbook would be generic and agency related with information regarding, for example, police, fire, and health agencies.


It was queried what the Partnership would be allowed to do when a license had been received.

(Action: Lynne Lidster)


Further information on the printing costs and the number of handbooks needed would be sought. It was suggested that contact sheets with phone numbers on be kept at the back of the handbook in case they changed. There were national contacts in the handbook for Essex County Council, it was queried whether local contacts should be included also for Bracknell Forest. Logos for the handbook would be considered and it was suggested that no date should be added. It was suggested that it could be difficult to insert information unless the handbook was spiral bound.


Help from agencies and, for example, the use of Town and Country would be sought but duplication should be avoided, such as multiple copies to the same agency. Housebound people should be targeted and a wide distribution for the handbook was suggested as the best option.


Bracknell Forest Bus Services Consultation pdf icon PDF 183 KB


Sue Cuthbert, Principle Engineer (Transport IMP), gave a briefing on the Bracknell Forest Bus Services Consultation.


Bus services in Bracknell Forest operated via commercial or contracted services supported by external funding. If bus services crossed borough boundaries, they would be funded by several councils. Some bus services were funded by developers but when funding ran out if the service was not commercially viable it would likely cease. Every service was not necessarily stand alone and some were shared with other services or contracts, rather than being one bus, one driver and one route.


There were strong links with concessionary fares and support from Bracknell Forest Council but cuts in the budget throughout the Council had led to services being reviewed. The changes implemented to the bus services in Bracknell Forest would have an impact on residents and public transport users in the area, and the bus services consultation would help to inform the decision making process regarding which services to withdraw or reduce.


The bus services consultation questionnaire had been distributed and the consultation had been advertised on bus services, online, in libraries and community centres. Questionnaires had also been sent to the Parish and Town Councils in Bracknell Forest. Community transport was different to the bus services in the consultation.


It was suggested that it would be easier to understand cuts to bus services in the borough if the costs to the Borough Council of keeping a particular service running were known.


The 151 bus service withdrawal could be justified as passengers could use the 190 service instead. The withdrawal and reduction of bus services was based on passenger numbers and if a service was not commercially viable it would be unlikely to continue. It was queried whether local businesses had been asked if they would like to subsidise bus services in the borough.


Contracted bus services and transport links had been considered but not discussed in detail with bus operators as yet. It was suggested that if good bus services were available, such as the Green Park to Reading service, people may be more inclined to leave their cars at home and save money on car parking fees.


The withdrawal of evening and Sunday bus services in the Binfield and Winkfield areas, and less frequency during the day, in particular was of concern for some people but the withdrawal and reduction of bus services was not definite yet. It was mentioned that older people in particular would like to attend events, but were unable to as they could travel to the event via bus services but could not travel home again as many bus services stopped early evening and special transport arrangements would need to be made.


Bus services users and potential users were being considered and the possible impacts of bus service reduction or withdrawal.


There was competition for Community Transport, for example, mini buses for wheelchair users such as dial-a-ride. A fair price was needed for these services and sometimes advance booking was needed to obtain  ...  view the full minutes text for item 69.


Older People's Partnership Conference Update


Naoma Dobson, Head of Long Term Community Support and Continuing Health Care, gave an update on the Older People’s Partnership Conference.


There had not been a great number of people offering to donate in relation to the conference and there had been a couple of changes in facilitators. There had not been a great response from people wishing to attend the conference yet but BFVA had 30 people confirmed so far.


Money matters and advice from the CAB would be undertaken before lunch and Simon Bull, Assistant Borough Solicitor, would be there. It was hoped that Simon could do an early slot before lunch. Naoma would let Chris Cowap know if this was possible.

(Action: Naoma Dobson)


There would be an ‘out and about’ session with Martin Gilman at the conference and a key pad for responses from the audience when asked questions. Chris Cowap and Lynne Lidster were working on ideas for the questions. Naoma would possibly liaise with Vicky Vine regarding this. The company involved would like to know one week in advance of the conference what the questions would be.


After each speaker at the conference there would be a 20 minute discussion slot. It was suggested that Sue Cuthbert could attend the transport section of the conference and would put forward two questions for this.

(Action: Sue Cuthbert)


Members Updates


Naoma Dobson, Head of Long Term Community Support and Continuing Health Care, mentioned that the Carers’ Strategy was about to be launched. Incidents of support had increased by 31% in one year and people were coming back for support as their needs increased.


Hospitals were discharging people too soon on occasion and carers were then required sometimes five times a day which was not sustainable long term for any local authority. Sometimes people were discharged from hospital and then re-admitted the next day as they were still unwell, so agencies were then not paid as the client was not at home.


Not much funding was received by Adult Social Care from central government so there would not be as much impact from funding cuts but there would still be some impact. There would not be a Joint Commissioning post anymore as the funding for this had been cut. End of life care funding in Bracknell Forest amounted to approximately £50,000. In relation to continuing health care, there were nursing home places in the NHS and funding for acute care was a problem area.


Peter Smith, CEO Caring for Care Homes Ltd, was a representative on the Economic and Skills Development Partnership (ESDP) and would be attending the Older People’s Partnership meetings to consider actions arising from the meetings. Actions 5.1 – 5.5 of the action plan from the ESDP would be circulated to the Older People’s Partnership.

(Action: Amanda Roden)


Chris Cowap, BFVA, mentioned that the Faith and Belief Forum was being held on Wednesday 9 May 2012, 12pm – 2pm, at the Open Learning Centre in Bracknell and lunch would be provided. More information on this would be available soon. Health featured highly in relation to minority ethnic groups.


Madeline Diver, CAB, updated partnership members on the financial situation with CAB at present. There would be a mini conference with the head office representative in two weeks to consider cuts in services if more funding was not secured. Particular contracts would be looked at and the Berkshire Community Foundation would pay a salary for some work to be undertaken for a couple of months.


An application for Comic Relief funding had been put in and there were two rounds to this but many applications had been received by Comic Relief so they had not been able to go through them all. CAB were waiting to hear if they were through to the second stage but had a plan in case this funding was not secured.


There were national initiatives in relation to the Health and Social Care Bill and all services provided locally would go to tender but this would not happen for April 2012. The core funding received from Bracknell Forest Council was not enough to continue with current CAB services in Bracknell. The main costs to cover were for the core staff team, which comprised of administration staff, the Chief Executive, a money advice advisor, an overseer of benefits, and the CAB Manager.  ...  view the full minutes text for item 71.


Future Meetings

Future meetings of the Older People’s Partnership will be held at 10am in the Boardroom at Amber House:


Wednesday 20 June 2012

Wednesday 19 September 2012

Wednesday 12 December 2012

Wednesday 20 March 2013


Future meetings of the Older People’s Partnership will be held at 10am in the Boardroom at Amber House:  


Wednesday 20 June 2012

Wednesday 19 September 2012

Wednesday 12 December 2012

Wednesday 20 March 2013